March for Free Expression

The next phase

Friday, March 24, 2006

Slogans

The slogans selected for the official placards and banners are:

"Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth
having." -- Lord Justice Sedley

"Establishing liberty in England was a costly
business, the idol of despotic power was drowned in
seas of blood, but the English don't think the cost
was too high." - Voltaire: Lettres philosophiques

Truth is its own defence - No Censorship

Blasphemy is a victimless crime

There is nothing more sacred than freedom

"Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the
privilege to do so too." - Voltaire: Essay on
Tolerance

"I do not agree with what you say, but will defend to
the death your right to say it." - Attributed to
Voltaire

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought,
conscience and religion; this right includes freedom
to change his religion or belief..." - Article 18:
Universal Declaration of Human Rights

"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and
expression; this right includes freedom to hold
opinions without interference..." - Article 19:
Universal Declaration of Human Rights

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought,
conscience and religion; this right includes freedom
to change his religion or belief..." - Article 9.1:
Human Rights Act (1998)

"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and
expression; this right includes freedom to hold
opinions without interference..." Article 10.1: Human
Rights Act (1998)

"If there is a walnut in your hand and people say that
it is a pearl, their saying will not benefit you in
any way when you know that it is actually a walnut.
And if there is a pearl in your hand and people say
that it is a walnut, their saying will not harm you in
any way when you know that it is actually a pearl." -
Musa Al-Kadhim (AS), the 7th Imam

"My definition of a free society is a society where it
is safe to be unpopular." - Adlai E. Stevenson Jr.

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences
attending too much liberty than to those attending too
small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

70 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tremendously ironic, given recent events, that the first slogan you have quoted is:

"Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having."

12:20 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Classic comedy. This whole event is a joke.

12:28 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In addition:

'I demand the right to be offended'

12:28 pm  
Anonymous Ranting Kraut said...

@ anonymous
I share the widespread disappointment over the request not to bring the cartoons. Having said this, I am a bit stunned by the severity of the reactions.
I am still planning to go, while being unhappy about some developments. Now can we all just agree to disagree on the cartoon issue and make up our own mind on whether to attend? So long as the organisers don't prevent people from showing the cartoons I just don't see this as a make or break issue.

12:40 pm  
Anonymous JPseudonym said...

Can I wear a T-shirt saying

thereligionofpeace.com

12:44 pm  
Anonymous Agamemnon said...

It's my profound hope that plenty of people do turn up with placards bearing the Islamic cartoons AND one of the many anti-Christian cartoons published throughout the middle east.

Otherwise this is just a meaningless, mealy mouthed load of old rubbish run by cap-doffers to parliamentarians and religious extremists. Disappointing.

12:44 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why have you done this? You have destroyed the entire purpose of the event.

FREE Means FREE.

12:57 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These aren't slogans, they're philosophy essays. How about the English PEN slogan - "Free expression is no offence"

12:59 pm  
Blogger Theo said...

Tremendously ironic, given recent events, that the first slogan you have quoted is:

"Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having."


Yes absolutely and this is the main reason I support this march, as long as that banner is welcome there I think people should atleast give the march a go, even if its not backed up.

People the worst thing that can happen now is that we all don't turn up and it instead turns into a march about why we all need laws to protect us from each others insults, I guarantee that if people boycott this march, that's what it will turn into. If you don't turn up, other people will and your voice wont be heard so please still come if you believe in free speech, whatever you do, dont stay home on Saturday.

1:06 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Respect must be earned - not demanded'

1:07 pm  
Anonymous publicansdecoy said...

You're probably right Theo, and I'm probably going to be there now, at least to see what happens. I won't be bringing any banners now though. Quick question for the trolls on this blog though - my original banner idea was a picture of Big Mo from Eastenders, with a beard and a turban painted on. Anyone offended by that?

Still no explicit statement defending the right to display the cartoons, if not the reason though. Pah.

1:11 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Picking one of these slogans, like 'There is nothing more sacred than freedom' says ten times more than displaying a cartoon.

Not that I see anything wrong with displaying the cartoons, I would defend anyones right to do so.

Lets move on.

Well done Peter.

1:13 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The shorter the better. Pictures are good too (did I say Muhammed cartoons? No, I didn't ;-)

1:17 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

How about this slogan:

Islamic Fascism will never rule Great Britain

Would that one be ok?

1:35 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having seen the MAC slogans I am convinced they will feel sufficiently offended by the March for Free Expression slogans. If they understand them.

1:37 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to rastaman
This is a pro something rally. Not an against something rally. Your suggested poster will only fuel those crying racism.

1:39 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'No tolerance for the intolerant'

1:40 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Incitement to murder is not free speech'

1:42 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the counter-banners - very civil indeed:

http://www.globalcivility.co.uk/250306%20localdemonstration.htm

1:56 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Umm, and these people

http://www.globalcivility.co.uk/250306%20localdemonstration.htm

are turning up to a march in support of free expression because....?

2:01 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

Oh you are all just SO sweet. And so forgetful. This started out as a march for free expression because free expression is being attacked by ISLAMIC FASCISM! Remember? Man oh man.

2:06 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My definition of a free society is a society where it
is safe to be unpopular." - Adlai E. Stevenson Jr.

Except at this Free Speech rally lol!!!!

2:07 pm  
Anonymous JPseudonym said...

UNITE
AGAINST
ISLAMO-FASCISM

2:13 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

If you backpedal too hard you're going to fall right off that bicycle completely. You're heading for an awful crash.

2:31 pm  
Blogger TheFriendlyInfidel said...

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2:46 pm  
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2:48 pm  
Blogger Jew 90 said...

Have you seen the placards they are going to wave around? And the organisers are worried that 'some' banners with cartoons on will cause offence to them!

This is getting more and more bizarre.

2:52 pm  
Anonymous berrowboy said...

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Seems to nicely sum up the current self-imposed censorship.

2:58 pm  
Blogger Rezz said...

“March for Free Expression*”

*Free speech not necessarily included

This march is beyond satire.
“What do we want?”
“Self censorship!”
“When do we want it?”
“Now!”

2:58 pm  
Blogger Rezz said...

“March for Free Expression*”
*Free speech not necessarily included
This march is beyond satire.
“What do we want?”
“Self censorship!”
“When do we want it?”
“Now!”

3:00 pm  
Blogger Jew 90 said...

even better via Harry's Place blog

"What do we want: FREEDOM OF SPEECH. When do we want it: NOT NOW BUT CERTAINLY IN A FORUM IN WHICH THINGS CAN BE SEEN AND DEBATED WITHOUT THEM BEING, IN CONTEXT, INTIMIDATING TO ANYONE"

3:06 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Using these slogans as inspiration:

http://muttawa.blogspot.com/2006/03/demonstration-and-rally.html

Why don't we come the full circle and write:

"Free speech was the cancer, religion had the cure."

"We came a running, then the MAC came a gunning"

"Europe, we learnt lessons from the cartoons and 7/7"

"Silence those that critise Religion"

etc etc ...

Hang on ... I think I can feel my lunch coming around for the second time.

3:12 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you seen these holy true words?

http://www.ihrc.org.uk/show.php?id=1767

Do not get offended. I was rather amused on reading it.

3:40 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It has already been said, but how can you possibly put this: "Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having." on anything you bring there when you are forbidding material exactly like this. Pathetic.

3:47 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Global civility pamplet - jpeg format.

what a bunch of crybaby tossers.

4:08 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

Ok, then, would THIS slogan be ok?

"Kill the Offenders of Islam" or

"Jews Are Murdering Drinkers of Arab Blood" or

a picture of Israeli airplanes hitting the Twin Towers while Sharon watches happily.

Look at more like this: www.islamanazi.com/cartoon2.htm

Then tell me again why it's so important to appease and welcome Muslims and not Christians and Jews.

4:11 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rastaman: I had the idea on another thread to have a banner with the bomb/turban JP cartoon juxtaposed with the sort of cartoon you mention (or the notorious 'post-coital Hitler and Anne Frank one' from The Arab European) with the slogan 'Both offensive. Neither censored'.

What do you think?

4:18 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

Absolutely! No censorship. Period!

4:35 pm  
Blogger Dan said...

publicansdecoy

"Quick question for the trolls on this blog though - my original banner idea was a picture of Big Mo from Eastenders, with a beard and a turban painted on."

Christ! You wouldn't just be scaring the Muslims off with that mate - a classic!

4:51 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

So much for free speech. My last post where I freely admit hating Islam as just one more form of fascism was utterly deleted. So before they delete this one, if you don't like what I have to say, go to www.islamanazi.com
where you can bitch me out and have perfect freedom of speech doing so.

I will refrain from adding the rest of my last comment about hoping all eyes are on the march if the Muslims start rioting, which was in reply to the previous blog which also got deleted.

5:07 pm  
Blogger Anonymous said...

Anyone going to be carrying a swarstika or is it just me?

5:15 pm  
Blogger Anonymous said...

Suggestions for slogans:

"Kill the Offenders of Islam" or

"Jews Are Murdering Drinkers of Arab Blood" or

a picture of Israeli airplanes hitting the Twin Towers while Sharon watches happily.

5:20 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

If you do, be sure to have it superimposed on top of a red crescent.

5:21 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

yes, that was my 4:11 post

Rastaman said...

Ok, then, would THIS slogan be ok?

"Kill the Offenders of Islam" or

"Jews Are Murdering Drinkers of Arab Blood" or

a picture of Israeli airplanes hitting the Twin Towers while Sharon watches happily.

Look at more like this: www.islamanazi.com/cartoon2.htm

Then tell me again why it's so important to appease and welcome Muslims and not Christians and Jews.

4:11 PM

5:23 pm  
Anonymous publicansdecoy said...

Rastaman,

You have utterly and irredeemably lost the plot now. Your comments do this campaign a disservice. Nobody behind the MFE will endorse your pathetic hate-filled bile. I'm not going to tell you to stop posting, I'm simply going to ask. You're achieving nothing. You're making yourself look like an idiot, you've utterly discredited anything that you've said before which may have containe dtraces of validity. It is quite clear that you stand utterly contrary to the principles of free expression and this march. Ideologically, are you much better than those you criticise?

I will not respond to any further comments from you.

5:32 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

Thank God for that. I was really worried that you were going to continue to comment. Losing sleep over it, really.

Yes, I have lost track of the fact that this whole thing started because of Islamic fascism and its attacks on free speech. Oh sure, uh huh, whereas you are right on track the whole time.

No, I think the reality here is that I keep bringing us back to the point of this whole thing everytime you start leading it astray somewhere, and that really is starting to piss you off.

Thank you in advance for not making any more comments directed at me. Very kind of you to offer.

5:45 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

Oh, and thank you also for the personal attack against me, all the names you called me and your insulting remarks in general. I'm sure people reading this can separate one fool from another, if indeed anyone considers me to be one, which is certainly their privilege.

I would like to know at what point I asked for the endorsement of any person or group, but don't answer, I would hate to intrude on your self-inflicted silence.

5:49 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Toonophobia: Irrational Fear of blasphemous line drawings

6:09 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

accompanied by the cartoons of course - see ya tomorrow!

6:11 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ROFL
Excellent! And so CIVIL, too.

6:12 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My definition of a free society is a society where it is safe to be unpopular." - Adlai E. Stevenson Jr.

Except at this Free Speech rally lol!!!!

Agreed - Look how unpopular Volitaire has made himself by saying "Cartoons not acceptable - Muslims are welcome."
Amazing how many people aren't defending his freedom to say this.

6:16 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about a cartoon of Charlie Brown being held as a hostage (gagged with hands behind his back) or with a gun to his head?

6:27 pm  
Blogger Dangerouslysubversivedad said...

Oh fantastic, the man organising the March For Free Expressions is now deleting comments! What a total fucking hypocrite you are 'Voltaire'.

6:52 pm  
Anonymous Arty 'Fucking' Smokes said...

So you support freedom of speech and expression, but you only want demonstrators to use "official" slogans? I hope the Irnoy Police give your arses a good kicking.

Feel free to delete this message. It would give me great satisfaction in seeing proof of your wooly-minded thinking.

Dumb cunt.

6:57 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here are a few more ideas:

Politicians - any blow up picture of any politician - any national flag apart from Danish and UK (let's break the BNP slur and not let the occasion be used to be sabotaged by these thugs which could threaten the whole campaign).

Charles Clarke, Gordon Brown, Tony Blair.

PLEASE Some No2ID captions WE REALLY NEED THIS NOW

Against the "Legislative Reform Act"

SOME NO2ID.NET leaflets and brochures.

PRISON REFORM TRUST - Give Prisoners the Vote.

Stand WITH THE POLICE - against centralisation of the British Police that would lead to a Police State.

For those of you who are saying - "they will never get this or that past parliament or the Lords etc" remember that if people had been told that 10 years ago:

- Soon you will not be able to protest outside Parliament
- You will be arrested for any offense at all even if its non custodial
- You will not be able to get council permission for organising valid protests
- You can be held without charge or evidence for up to 60 days in prison
- You can be considered guilty and dealt with by a "Prosecutor" outside of the courts without a chance to protest your innocence to a magistrate
- You will have your DNA taken and will have to carry an ID every day

Most people would have said - Nah - could never happen in Britain

It is happening right now - this business with the cartoons is a smokescreen and unless we wake up now we risk sleeping through a revolution.

7:03 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Religion of Peace My Ass"

"Anyone who has sex with a 9 year old girl is a filthy paedophile"

Will those be ok?

7:14 pm  
Blogger The Pedant-General in Ordinary said...

Baroness Scott in her opinion in the Begum case in the Lords:

"The European Court of Human Rights has never accepted that interference with the right of freedom of expression is justified by the fact that the ideas expressed may offend someone."

Aposite I think.

8:11 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"mo islam , mo bombs"

"fuck off back to saudi arabia"

"the nazis went after the wrong people?"



yeah - i am a bigot when it comes to Islam. but 3000 deaths on 9/11 turned me into a bigot.

60 deaths on 7/7 turned me into a bigot.

and the hundreds dead in Madrid turned me into a bigot.

not to mention the BBC shoving Islam down my throat and lying about it being a "religion of peace" - i am SICK to the back teeth with Islam. it is a fucking death CULT.

expell the whole bloody lot of them and take our Europe back.

i'm tired of being told to be "polite" in the face of lunatic jihadist nutcases.

their "prophet" and their "religion" can go fuck itself.

they declared war on us - they have called for killing "kuffars" and "infidels" - i didnt.

its about bloody time that we stood up for Europe and shouted it out loud and clear - Europe is not Eurabia. If you want a crusade, by god are you going to get one.

8:15 pm  
Blogger The Pedant-General in Ordinary said...

Oh and looking at the Global Civility banners, they have actually got the idea:

"Freedom to Insult

=

Freedom of Speech"

That's right guys: you are getting it.

There is a good case for both sides to be carrying this banner.

Except MFE should do so with a smile.

Morons.

8:17 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you not think they're all a bit long for plackards, or would choosing only short statements be censorship?

8:48 pm  
Blogger St George said...

Going by what Muslims got away with on their demo

Video of Muslim Demo

I don't see what would be wrong with

Behead All Muslims!

If they were allowed to carry such strong messages, it seems discriminatory to prevent other groups from doing the same.

Aren't we all supposed to be equal?

9:09 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, catchy slogans, Peter! They just slip off the tongue!

I'm going to be repeating, at the top of my voice, the one about walnuts. That'll show'em!

12:44 am  
Blogger St George said...

People could be really ironic and come along with placards like this

Islam4U

saying

Behead those who insult Islam

1:06 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Peter. Me and my friend just formed our own religion.

Our Good Book says: "Thou shalt not march, for that is what the ant doth do, and I sayeth he is an evil beast".

Therefore Peter, for the sake of community relations, and so as not to offend my religious sensibilities, could you please call off the march? Void told me you might be in danger of inciting religious hatred against me.

Since we live in a multicultural society, where all cultures and religions are equal, I trust this will be acceptable to you. I mean, you can't just make concessions to the Muslims, can you? That would be discrimination.

Sorry to spoil your fun. At least me and my friend won't have to behead anyone now. Phew!

1:15 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about "our niggers better then yours" or " i rather be a paki than a (add nationality)" or "two world wars and one world cup" or even monkey chants at any black people that turn up or walk by.

because thats what this rally is endorsing and condoning. ALL YOU HYPOCRITE THAT ARE GOING, DON'T YOU EVER, EVER, EVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THESES CHANTS ANYTIME YOU HEAR THEM.

YEAH RIGHT....MARCH FOR FREE EXPRESSION..WALKED RIGHT INTO THE HANDS OF THE BNP. WELL DONE

5:19 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"yeah - i am a bigot when it comes to Islam. but 3000 deaths on 9/11 turned me into a bigot.

60 deaths on 7/7 turned me into a bigot.

and the hundreds dead in Madrid turned me into a bigot."

lets not toll bodycounts as you'll find we in the secular/ christian west have way more to shout about

5:28 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about "our niggers better then yours" or " i rather be a paki than a (add nationality)" or "two world wars and one world cup" or even monkey chants at any black people that turn up or walk by.

because thats what this rally is endorsing and condoning. ALL YOU HYPOCRITE THAT ARE GOING, DON'T YOU EVER, EVER, EVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THESES CHANTS ANYTIME YOU HEAR THEM.

YEAH RIGHT....MARCH FOR FREE EXPRESSION..WALKED RIGHT INTO THE HANDS OF THE BNP. WELL DONE


Wow. Now that somebody has typed it all using capitals, I've finally got the point!

lol

Islam is a religion. Not a race. As such, we reserve to take the piss out of it for what it is. Hocus-Pocus.

7:24 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Islam is a religion. Not a race. As such, we reserve to take the piss out of it for what it is. Hocus-Pocus."

yeah they did that with the jews just before they put them in the gas chambers.

11:38 am  
Blogger Lagwolf said...

I prefer "Free Piglet".

1:13 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah they did that with the jews just before they put them in the gas chambers.

Yes you're right. Between you and me, there is a secret plot to gas over a billion muslims. The Zyclon is being manufactured en mass right now.

Oh please. Give us a break you histerical clown.

8:15 am  

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