March for Free Expression

The next phase

Sunday, March 26, 2006

Infidel Bloggers

I keep forgetting to thank the Infidel Bloggers for their contribution to the day. When people were getting tired, a lot of smiles broke out when their placards made it onto the steps.

publicansdecoy, nice to meet you. X - thanks so much for all your help and I hope we meet again.

Name checking is invidious... there were so many great people there yesterday. But let's all keep a special place in our hearts for the bullfighter.

And dfh - if I'm right and it was you - thanks for making such a long round trip and thanks for sticking to your guns.

19 Comments:

Blogger Ophelia Benson said...

Maryam Namazie reports
that Reza Moradi has been summoned.

"Reza Moradi was told he will be summoned to court for 'offending' someone because he carried a placard with the Mohammad caricatures at the March 25 free speech rally - more on this later"

11:08 pm  
Blogger Will B said...

for the police there is nothing better than pandering to extremeism.

11:46 pm  
Blogger FreeSpeech said...

That is a test case.

1:34 am  
Blogger Ophelia Benson said...

Well let's hope that case fails the test. Let's hope there's no need for a 'Free Reza Moradi' march. But he shouldn't have to go to court! It's an outrage!

2:45 am  
Blogger mostazaf said...

So if someone parades a placard saying (or an Iranian or Iraqi flag containing) "allahoakbar", can I take him to court?

I certainly find that extremely offensive and intimidating, and an outrageous attack on all freethinkers.

5:21 am  
Blogger Polish Solidarity with Denmark said...

Ophelia, all of us present at the rally should then be summoned to court as all of us are "guilty" of the same "crime". It is a disgrace that such a complaint made by an anonymous coward (reminds me of "good old Stasi practices") should be even given consideration (which it does not deserve).
Please keep us informed about this case.

7:53 am  
Blogger CarnackiUK said...

Anyone have any idea who it was complained? With all the photos and video taken on the day the complainant may well have been captured approaching the police.

I doubt this will come to anything, but if it does it will be an own goal: the cartoons will have to be displayed in court and the MSM will be under pressure to publish descriptions of the images, if not the images themselves.

9:15 am  
Blogger FreeSpeech said...

' reminds me of "good old Stasi practices" '

that's what these unknown offended people want.
And after reading up on Hassan al-Banna and the Muslim Brother's programme, it dawns on me, what is meant by "Global Civility": Decent behaviour according to the Sharia all over the world.
Look forward to a better world - according to them.

10:05 am  
Blogger publicansdecoy said...

Hi Peter.

It was nice to meet you too, however briefly. I think Saturday was an important starting point, but it was just that - a start. I hope that this campaign can continue to grow.

To the people moaning about no more anonymous comments - it takes all of 30 seconds to register (I just sorted it out properly for myself). Everybody is free to register, surely? And it certainly makes things easier if you can see exactly who you are replying to, rather than 'anonymous of 4.11pm' etc.

10:07 am  
Blogger kes said...

Hi - can you let us know where the photos/video clips are so we can go and have a look? i've found some on Islamaphobia Watch's website.

'couldn't get there on Saturday because of work, but it sounds and looks like you all had a good time - and took the first step in something that is crucially important to us all

10:23 am  
Blogger Polish Solidarity with Denmark said...

Luke, yes, everybody reporting on everybody, even children on their parents (the "infamous" Russian boy called Pavlik Morozov:
http://www.cyberussr.com/rus/morozov.html)
How do we know who we can trust any more?
Kes,
Pictures can be found here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4844634.stm
here great pics:
http://www.thatshot.org/march_for_free__expression_london.html
http://nordish.net/blog/london_25march/
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-922.html)

I wonder if anybody has caught on their camera the 9 jihadists in black and white colours?

10:30 am  
Blogger Ismaeel said...

Luke, i would like you to have a long good look at our list of supporters and what you will find as far as i know is that none of those groups come from a Muslim Brotherhood orientation, they are however to be found in the MCB and the MAB. So read up on the Muslim brotherhood as much as you like and then if you have criticisms of them go to the aforementioned groups.

12:15 pm  
Blogger jonz said...

Thankyou Peter. I really hope we can do this again.

2:42 pm  
Blogger squirrelsbadhairday said...

How ironic that Reza Moradi escaped theocratic, totalitarian Iran only to be arrested in increasingly totalitarian, thought-crime Britain.

6:22 pm  
Blogger mostazaf said...

If Peter did not forbid showing of cartoons at the rally, then Reza Moradi would not have been singled out and arrested.

Peter, it is time for you to accept that it was a horrible decision.

2:57 am  
Blogger publicansdecoy said...

Moztasef,

Two points:
1) Peter did not "forbid" the showing of the cartoons, he merely requested
2) Whether or not Peter had made his request, some people would have shown up with the cartoons, and the person who complained would still have complained. To imply that Peter is somehow culpable for what has happened to Reza Moradi is disgusting.

10:23 am  
Blogger Anonymous said...

Runnymede Trust:
The Runnymede Trust has identified eight components that they say define Islamophobia.
This definition, from the 1997 document 'Islamophobia: A Challenge For Us All' is widely accepted, including by the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia.
The eight components are:

1) Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.
2) Islam is seen as separate and 'other'. It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.
3) Islam is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive and sexist.
4) Islam is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism and engaged in a 'clash of civilisations'.
5) Islam is seen as a political ideology and is used for political or military advantage.
6) Criticisms made of the West by Islam are rejected out of hand.
7) Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.
8) Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural or normal.

10:32 am  
Blogger TheFriendlyInfidel said...

Anonymous,

1) Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.

Islam is going through enormous change, it has adapted to the internet and modern telecommunications.

2) Islam is seen as separate and 'other'. It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.

There is a great deal more shared values than not.

3) Islam is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive and sexist.

I don't think that the world is West vs Islam. One is a system of government the other is a religion. You may as well compare Islam and China, or apples and pears.

4) Islam is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism and engaged in a 'clash of civilizations'.

I see this, although I don't see all of Islam doing it, but I do see Iran and Saudi call for “Islam rise up”. So lets say half a point.

5) Islam is seen as a political ideology and is used for political or military advantage.

Many Islamic states exploit Islam's teachings to do exactly this. One point.

6) Criticisms made of the West by Islam are rejected out of hand.

Well this is a two way street, isn't it? I believe that criticism like "cover your women up" are ignored. One point.

7) Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.

I don't sign up to this in the slightest. I live in Brixton are of Muslim descent.

8) Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural or normal.

I don’t sign up to that one either.

So I score 2.5 on the “Islamophobia test” how do you score on the "Nine Danger Signs of Militant Islam"?

1. Justification of any Islamic terrorism, Palestinian or otherwise.

2. Supporting or refusing to condemn Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, Hamas, or other terrorists or other terrorist organizations by name.

3. Promoting jihad for Muslims to fight against what they determine is "injustice" or "aggression".

4. Demands for Sharia law in the West, or denying that Sharia forbids equal rights for women and members of religions other than Islam.

5. Demanding that Americans accommodate the public expression of Islamic laws, customs, and practices that conflict with, or are harmful to American laws,
customs, and practices.

6. Denying that Muslims were involved in the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and other attacks around the world.

7. Refusal to cooperate with or inciting others not to cooperate with authorities or standard security procedures.

8. Branding Progressive Muslims or Muslims of different opinions as "apostates".

9. Refusal to interact, converse, or socialize with non-Muslims.

8:49 pm  
Blogger Anonymous said...

Hey JEW90, BNP Member
And anyone who's THAT upset about "not enough" cartoons at the rally:-

No wonder you complain about censorship - it affects your ability to spread your purile message. Glad you're pissed off - it's a very good sign that Voltaire did something right.

You were going to use the march for your sick aims weren't you?

Muslim, British, and Proud.

BNP - F off out of this country.
You don't belong.

10:59 am  

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