March for Free Expression

The next phase

Thursday, March 16, 2006

Chants

We are inviting suggestions for chants and slogans. As ever, wit is encouraged. Please use the comments function.

44 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know who's climbing on board?

You may have seen off the BNP, but be aware two other of your backers are fairly unsavoury:

Third Way are a splinter from the old National Front. They claim to be 'non-racist' but also say they stand for 'Indiginous (sic) Christians', and their leaders remain White Supremacists.

And the Freedom Association - while not Fascist in the BNP/NF/Third Way sense - were strong supporters of the Hard Right within Margaret Thatcher's old-style Tory Party - anti-immigration and pro-death penalty as well as strongly pro-capitalism and anti-trade union.

12:40 pm  
Blogger Voltaire said...

George Galloway seems to have been perfectly content to talk with Third Way (interview, latest edition). Have a glance at their patrons (David Sheppard and others), the Guardian contributor associates, the Aids hospice person... I think you're rather off beam here, I'm afraid.

Yes, we know people on the left don't like the Freedom Association. See here.

12:47 pm  
Blogger chatterton said...

There is indeed a group called "Third Way" which grew out of various splits in the far right. It doesn't seem to be the same group as this Third Way Christian magazine, however.

There are two different web addresses, for a start.

12:57 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And the Freedom Association - while not Fascist in the BNP/NF/Third Way sense - were strong supporters of the Hard Right within Margaret Thatcher's old-style Tory Party - anti-immigration and pro-death penalty as well as strongly pro-capitalism and anti-trade union."

AND THE LEFT WING WHITEWASH IS COMPLETE!!!!!

You have to laugh though. Most of us us could smell the left wing bulshit in the air when "jugglers and whistleblowers are welcome" was posted up.

There's a few tramps in my hometown with dogs on strings, do you want me to complete it all by giving them their trainfare into London?

1:45 pm  
Anonymous Steve said...

So 'anonymous' (or is that left-wing wrecker too embarrassed to be identified?) are pro death penalty, anti-trade union, anti-immigration and pro-capitalism not legitimate points of view then?

Do you have to believe in unrestricted immigration, socialism, trade union power and be against the death penalty to demonstrate for free speech?

Just because people rally together for free speech doesn't mean that they support each others' politics. Left-wingers have always sunk their differences and protested together, even when they were poles apart e.g. Anarchists and Stalinists.

I don't care who is at the rally provided that they are supporting the principle of free speech.

1:55 pm  
Anonymous Friendly infidel said...

> Just because people rally
> together for free speech
> doesn't mean that they
> support each others' politics.
>
> I don't care who is at the rally
> provided that they are supporting
> the principle of free speech.

Here, here. Well said that man.

2:04 pm  
Anonymous Steve said...

I've just read that UKIP are supporting the rally....

....and I'm STILL going. I'm even prepared to march alongside UKIP, who I think are a bunch of useless idiots.

So if I can do it, so can you.

2:08 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is what we can all rally round. DEFEND OUR CULTURE! You see free speech and expression are an established part of British culture, without which our multi faith multicultural society would never have thrived, so its our its assencial that our whole culture is defended at ALL COSTS against more oppresive natured and easily offended cultures. If anyones culture is eroded at the expence of another, then the multi culti ethos has failed and priority shifts back to the culture of the dominant people of that land.

2:28 pm  
Anonymous Helen said...

I am about to publicize the march on our blog EUReferendum but shall do no such thing and shall discourage people from attending if it is to be a leftie-luvvie march that considers capitalism a bad thing and accepts organizations only if they are approved of by George Galloway. I agree that the idea of the clowns and jugglers put me in mind of the old GLC and present GLA (Our Ken, in other words). Well, Voltaire, say it ain't so.

3:41 pm  
Anonymous Nick Pullar said...

It ain't so!

It's not a "leftie-luvvie" march. It's a march for people who are in favour of Freedom of Expression.

If you are a leftie-luvvie who is in favour of Freedom of Expression, please come on the March.

If you are right wing get us out of Europe Tory who is in favour of Freedom of Expression, please come on the March.

If you are any flavour inbetween (or no flavour at all) who is in favour of Freedom of Expression, please come on the March.

The ONLY people who are not welcome are those who use or threaten violence.

It really is as simple as that!

I hope to see you all there.

4:12 pm  
Anonymous Steve said...

Helen, don't be as pathetic as the lefties!

All this "I'm not going if he/she's going" reminds me of school.

Grow up the lot of you!

4:20 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can I also alert you to the fact that the BNP's new front organisation Civil Liberty has declared it is supporting your demonstration. Details can be found at www.civilliberty.org.uk

4:21 pm  
Anonymous Steve said...

Yeah, and I saw that some satanists were coming, and some paedophiles and the Ku Klux Klan and people who eat babies....

Who are all these 'Anonymous' commenters anyway? Why do they want to cast shady doubts on this rally?

Tell us who you are and what your agenda is or sod off!

4:28 pm  
Anonymous Rastaman said...

Allison, that was a shameless ploy to get me to post on your blog. Truly you are as bad as I am, possibly even worse since my arguments at least aren't specious. Tell you what tho, I'll look in here from time to time and when I see a link to my blog I will give yours a very nice one on mine. Fair enuff?

4:52 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The ONLY people who are not welcome are those who use or threaten violence.

It really is as simple as that!"


Too little, too late. "Volataire" didn't make it that simple, did he> He said the BNP are violent and are therefore not welcome, because he was unprofessional enough to be able to refrain from seperating his politics from a simple free speech issue, despite not one shred of evidence that the BNP has been organising violence in the past 12 years, let alone at your march.

5:02 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Yeah, and I saw that some satanists were coming, and some paedophiles and the Ku Klux Klan and people who eat babies...."

Who are all these 'Anonymous' commenters anyway? Why do they want to cast shady doubts on this rally?

Tell us who you are and what your agenda is or sod off!


I don't need to cast a shady doubt on this march. Volataire is doing a good job of that himself. If could retract his claws and keep his "right on" politics regarding the BNP out of the march, then life would be a lot easier.

5:05 pm  
Anonymous publicansdecoy said...

What's Allah fuss about?
We'll Mecca religious joke if we want to!

Hmm, perhaps not.

Anyway, all of the information and links on the left of the blog appear to have disappeared for me. Anyone else experiencing this problem?

5:16 pm  
Blogger Dan said...

Very well said Nick and Steve.

I don't much like UKIP either, but I'll happily argue with them till the cows come home, as they don't believe in achieving their political aims through violence.

Fascists however, are not welcome.

5:27 pm  
Anonymous oliver said...

Can I just remind the smearers that the glorious 'Stop the War' march of February 15, 2003 bought together BNP and Al-Qaeda supporters, among many other interest groups?

I'll be there.

5:36 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Very well said Nick and Steve.

I don't much like UKIP either, but I'll happily argue with them till the cows come home, as they don't believe in achieving their political aims through violence.

Fascists however, are not welcome."


What's a fascist?

There are plenty of fascists in government already, but I don't see any official statement warning off New Labour supporters.

Even "fascists" (If there ever was such a subjective word, there certainly is one) have just as much right to free speech as anyone else, including paedophiles and Chelsea fans.

5:44 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can I just remind the smearers that the glorious 'Stop the War' march of February 15, 2003 bought together BNP and Al-Qaeda supporters, among many other interest groups?

I'll be there.


Can just remind you that the "Stop the war" movement, didn't issue press releases day after day, to use their new found platform to politically smear people and ask them to stay away from their march.

5:47 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There might be children at the rally. They won't last for 2+ hours without some fun. Also it might be worth reminding everybody that the Talibans forbade flying kites - so let's fly them. Fundamentalists not only lack sense of humour but they are also joy-killers.


Polish Solidarity with Denmark

6:26 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There might be children at the rally. They won't last for 2+ hours without some fun. Also it might be worth reminding everybody that the Talibans forbade flying kites - so let's fly them. Fundamentalists not only lack sense of humour but they are also joy-killers.


Polish Solidarity with Denmark"


I really do need to get myself an account on this thing.....

The Taliban did not ban kite flying throughout the country. I have no time for the Taliban, but stories of them banning kite flying just to spoil the fun is non-sense.

In Kabul, there are no underground powerlines, they are all overhead, so they are everywhere, running to and from, just about every building.

The hospital facilities are not good, so children flying their kites into live power lines, isn't a good idea, the child ends up with serious burns and some poor bugger is left without power for weeks or even months.

So you see, there is a good reason to ban kite flyng in Kabul.

6:52 pm  
Blogger Steven said...

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7:10 pm  
Blogger Steven said...

Er, I am uncomfortable if George Galloway or Third Way has anything to do with this, but I support free speech.

Anyway, isnt this tread supposed to be dedicated to thinking of chants?

And on another point, can anyone here play a guitar and have an amp, perhaps we could use that at the start and end of the march?

7:16 pm  
Blogger Steven said...

"tHread" not "tread"

*sigh*

7:16 pm  
Blogger Voltaire said...

Helen, it ain't so. Lefties are upset about the inclusion of the Freedom Association. George Galloway was a sort of reductio ad absurdum: he wouldn't give the time of day, let alone an interview, to a NF spin-off. I (Peter) am a libertarian, Patrick is a socialist, Dan a liberal and so on. We disagree about politics but want to disagree peacefully, with freedom of speech on all sides.

Publicansdecoy, those would be easier to chant than some of the other posts.

Steven, neither the NF spin-off Third Way, nor the gorgeous one have anything to do with this march, so no need to hide the Kit-E-Kat.

7:29 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cant believe what I've just been reading.

For those people who have posted in this thread moaning about a particular organisations "support" for this event, you cant support free speech and then deny it to an organisation or an individual on the basis that you don't agree with their particular point of view on a subject. Got it? If you do then it's not freedom of speech is it?

It's a simple as that, I hope you understand.

8:20 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your links are further down the page, most likely that will be because you have put in a link or a picture that is too big for one of the posts and this simply puts all the side bar stuff below it, It is worth trying to sort out.

8:20 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, about flying kites:
I must admit I have never in my long searchful life come across such a ludicrous explanation of the ban on flying kites. Ban on certain games including kite flying was considered "un-Islamic" according to the Talibans.
In Afghanistan, Mullah Mohammed Omar and the ruling clerics imposed the ban in 1994 based on a strict interpretation of Sharia Law utlized by the Taliban in governing Afghanistan. The purpose of the ban on kite flying was to eliminate frivolous activities that took the minds of people away from the fundamental Islamic beliefs and codes of conduct being emphasized by the Mullahs at the time. Among some of the other activities banned were gambling, the use of television and use of the Internet.
When the rule of Afghanistan by the Taliban came to an end in 2002, one of the first activities engaged in was the flying of kites. Men and boys raised their kites once again in the traditional flying combat that is at the heart of kite flying in that country and this region of Asia and the Indian sub-continent.
Try your takiyya somewhere else worse educated.


Polish Solidarity with Denmark

10:14 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must admit I have never in my long searchful life come across such a ludicrous explanation of the ban on flying kites.

Well, if you look at the ant-taliban explanations, there are loads when you google. I've never read so many "Official" reasons. I'm going by what a NON Talibans told a British reporter in Kabul.

Also, I already said that I have no time for the Taliban, so there is no need to babble on about their endless list of bans various activities for being un-islamic.

10:49 pm  
Anonymous Alexander said...

Slogan ideas?

How about - "Muhammad isn't the Messiah. He's a very naughty Boy" on a plackard? (from Monty Python's movie, Life of Brian). Woah, my suggestion was tongue in cheek ;) I'm not being serious (as much as I would "love" to have such a banner).

I support this protest, because I have always felt that Religion should not be immune to criticism. Monthy Python made some seering observations in that movie. We should defend our right to criticize and defend sattire, or we are doomed. Hopefully, I can travel to London on the 25th to make it there.

11:37 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Down with fascists
down with islamo-fascists

--

Go on Tony
what are you afraid of?

--

Give us back our right to speak
don't be dhimmis, don't be meek

--

What's done more for democracy?
Mumbo-jumbo religious texts or
freedom to speak at liberty?

(i think the meter on that one needs some work....)

--

PS, Alexander: it would have to be "Muhammad isn't the Messenger. He's a very naughty Boy"

11:32 am  
Blogger Serf said...

Unfortunately we seem to have a problem between the Judean Peoples Front and The Peoples Front For Judea.

Just what those that would like to shut us up want to see.

12:04 pm  
Blogger Voltaire said...

Sorry - comment deleted. No advocacy of violence on this site.

1:37 pm  
Anonymous TITUS ADUXASS said...

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ALWAYS LOOK ON THE
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1:41 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You've been caught out Volataire.

All the guy said was that he was a member of the National Front and that he would be joining the march.

Nowhere in his post, did he discuss any violence.

You're a liar.

1:42 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

opps....I take that back Volataire...my sincere apologies...my mistake, I found the "deleted" comment.

Cheers.

1:44 pm  
Blogger Voltaire said...

No prob.

1:46 pm  
Anonymous titus aduxass said...

religion of peace
you must be joking
is that your AK
I see smoking

Taliban and Prophet Mo
Adolph HITLER uNCLE jo
wELL HAVE FREE SPEECH
WE'LL HAVE IT NOW
DON'T YOU KICK OUR SACRED COW

1:50 pm  
Blogger Dan said...

2...4...6...8...
Let us have some free debate

3..5..7...9...
Our free speech is on the line

OK, I'll stick to the day job :)

Did raise an eyebrow when I read that the comic Viz is currently describing itself as "a non-prophet-mocking" organisation.

3:53 pm  
Blogger Lagwolf said...

Speak up for free speech!

Speak up now before you can speak up no more!

_______________

Um wtf is wrong with the Freedom Association? They are not the slightest bit fascistic they support freedom for f***s sake. Lumping them in with the BNP and Third Way is just moronic. BTW this comes from a libertarian.

Why is it that people who say such daft things always post as anonymous?

12:50 am  
Anonymous Sagunto said...

Nicked this one from the baby-boom generation (so if The Dude would wish to assert his claim about "intellectual property", he might want to leave a message on my site).

It's the old pacifist mantra shouted at military pace (1-2, 1-2):
lead: "Waddo We Want?"
pub: "Peace!!"
lead: "Whendo we wannit??"
pub: "NOW!!"
(the 1-2 rhythm like the "Toreador's song" from Bizet's Carmen :-) )

Now March 25th, at the marchforfreeexpression: drum is banging; people marching, repeating the slogans of old...

...in a slightly updated version:
lead: "Whaddo we want?"
pub.: "Freeee Speach!" (free on the 1, speach short, on 2)
lead: "Whendo we wannit?"

..* (skipping a few 1-2's, drum goes on, non-stop

pub. solo: "Eh ... Whe already have it?"
(sofly spoken by only 1 from the crowd, breaking down the militaristic rhythm).

The lead picks up again with firm pace (someone is banging the 1-2's on a drum, like it's some sort of galley-workout)and again at the end the solo-speaker from the crowd breaks down the mantra by saying something like "Whe want to defend it", et cetera.

Kind regards from Amsterdam,
Sag.

11:23 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think we need some more stuff having a go at other religions. Yes, the Muslim extremists have been the noisiest, but they aren't the ones with the money (in the west, anyway).

10:59 pm  

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